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 This section “won’t” publish mails and opinions we receive from vegans (many of them are extremely aggressive and insulting as we expected). We will publish some of them to show the reader their apathetic behavior.

 VEGAN E-MAILS AND MESSAGES

 Vegans who write to us - sometimes they write well, sometimes they insult us- are losing their time miserably.

We don’t take you into account; we read neither correct messages nor the insulting ones.

Every time we see it’s a vegan message we click delete.

As we never read them, we won’t publish them, whether they are correct or not.

Someone can say we are not democratic; we don’t let others reply, etc

 We answer:

Can a Nazi write in a Jewish newspaper?

Can a member of the K.K.K. write in a newspaper or magazine of black people?

Can a human being defender write in vegan websites?

 

Apart from being ill people or people with serious psychological problems, most vegans are unable to reason or dialogue; they are fundamentalists that only want to convince the rest of the human beings of their unfounded madness. For us a vegan is an ill person we cannot discuss nor talk to. Psychiatrists say the same: you cannot ask normal conducts to abnormal people.

 A vegan cures himself as time goes by or he never cures himself, but as long as he is a vegan he is an irresponsible and an unredeemable person.

 Many youngsters who have no aims and have relationship problems fall in the vegan doctrine or in any other sect. As they are youngsters, they are more aggressive and fanatical. For an adolescent, things are white or black. Grey does not exist. This causes problems to them.

 Many old ladies, who live alone or have problems with their families, replace humans by animals, but their behavior is passive.  Generally, they think they are highly ethical human beings and the rest of the population that uses animals is not. Most of them are misogynic; they hate human beings or deny the human race. They have something to live for in veganism, something that helps them bear their empty lives, their problems precisely because they cannot relation with their co humans.

 In general there aren’t many male adults, except any especially alienated person who hates man so he finds a temporary solution to his severe problems to attend, worry and love animals.

 We are mostly worried about the youngsters who form the shock groups and are used by the vegan leaders and by the organizations which collect money from the poor people who believe in the videos about animal maltreatment and the vegan statements.

 These boys sometimes commit crimes by breaking, setting on fire and destroying property. Their parents have to pay huge compensations as they are responsible for them.

 It is important to warn their parents, especially if their sons start doing nonsense as not eating meat, drinking milk or other animal products.

 This abnormal behavior demonstrates that their son has fallen in or is about to fall in with the vegan doctrines. He got convinced of the vegan statements spread in Internet, in advertisements and in the media. Sometimes they start defending ecology (it’s a noble cause though veganism encourages pollution and attacks ecology with artificial fibers, fertilizers and mineral products, etc)

 The youngster has turned into a robot that stops thinking and reasoning correctly.

He is in the same dangerous situation as the one who has fallen in with drugs or a strange sect.

His parents probably ignore it and the damage enlarges.

We have explained the problem and our aim.

This is our doctrine, these are our aims and objectives and our way of thinking:

 A child is a child and a rat is a rat, if we forget it we will be lost.

FIRST MAN.

IT HAS BEEN, IS AND WILL BE THIS WAY FROM THE BEGINNING OF CIVILIZATION.

 A hundred years of veganism haven’t achieved anything, their only success was to enrich those who live from donations by deceiving people and to send to prison innocent youngsters or dangerous and alienated terrorists who believed in the vegan madness and violated the law.

 Not withstanding that, mankind continues eating meat, drinking milk, eating honey, eggs and fish, wearing fur, leather, wool and silk. 


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From: Adriana Lucila Gianelli Veloso

To:

Sent: Monday, June 30,

 

I have visited your website due to your invitation in a little section published in Clarin Newspaper.

I want to tell you that I’ve seen the faked video (I have no doubt it’s faked) of Marcela K. as I read Clarín every day.

Firstly, I felt disgusted as I don’t trust in any form of advertising that cowardly uses animal maltreatment to call people’s attention.

Additionally I’m fed up with the promotion of not wearing fur coats. I’ve always thought it was idle chatter which the ones who spread it do not accomplish. I’ve always worn and I continue wearing fur coats.  I know the fur in my fur coats came from animal farms because it is cheaper than hunting animals as it was done before.

I didn’t know “vegans” existed (they don’t come from planet “Vega”, do they?) and I also didn’t know about their doctrine based on the disuse of animals either for consumption or for medical investigations, and that they proposed a vegetarian alternative.

There probably might be a conspiracy of some kind and I think there must be something about it as at present there is a controversy between the soy producers and a project of our country that intends a variety of crops to be grown and livestock breeding for the Argentine’s domestic consumption; we know that due to soy prices, our territory is turning into a huge soy field and pastures, wheat, maize, rice and barley crops are being set aside.

We can still talking about this matter in deep …

As a physician, I think that the diet of human beings must be balanced: proteins may be represented by rice, of course, but not only by rice: the presence of proteins in a diet based on animal consumption (meat and dairy products) is essential. (When the Japanese introduced meat in their diet, they increased their height in 10cm on average in a short period of time).

Fat is also essential. I think this is also part of a conspiracy: in advertisements fats are set aside and replaced by carbohydrates as a method to be fit but insulin resistance has not been studied yet.

All this “chatter” is to tell you I back you up although I have to criticize that it isn’t good to reiterate the subjects over and over again as I read in your website. It may lead to think that the matter is not serious. And what you say is VERY serious.

Kind regards. 


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From: Rodolfo Miraz

To:

Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008

Subject: EXTRAORDINARY

 Very clear, extraordinary, people who have good sense exist at last, I enclose something more that “Pasquín”, excuse me, “Clarín” (the first vegan newspaper) informed. In 2007 Greenpeace collected 200 million dollars to save 500 whales; 2 million children could have eaten during one year. What do you think about it?

I think that the life of one single human being is more important than the lives of all animals on earth.

Kind regards and go ahead.

  

We enclose the following text on request of Mr. Miguel Delgado

 http://especista.blogspot.com/

LET IT KNOWN, DEFENSE BEGINS!

This blog has to be known in all Latin America, the radical vegans are already in Spain, Argentina and the United States and have caused economic and physical harm to those people they call SPECIESISTS (the ones who do not think like them, it means the rest of the world); these vegans want everybody to follow their ideas of:

1. NOT CONSUMING MEAT, OR ANIMAL PRODUCTS LIKE EGGS, MILK, HONEY, ETC

2. NOT WEARING FUR

3. NO PETS, NO ZOOS, NO ANIMALS FOR WORKING, ETC

4. NO ANIMAL TESTING (THE LIFE OF A CHILD IS EQUAL TO THE LIFE OF A RAT ACCORDING TO THEM)

5. NO HUNTING AND NO FISHING.

If these people arrive at your country they will intend to change laws (in Spain they want to make illegal bullfighting)

 MAKE THIS WEBSITE KNOWN, SEE THE LINKS WE PLACE AND GET PREPARED IF THESE PEOPLE WANT TO LIMIT YOUR FREEDOM AND IMPOSE THEIR IDEAS.

HERE IS THE LINK AGAIN: http://especista.blogspot.com/

 ONE THING IS TO PREVENT ANIMALS WE USE FROM SUFFERING INNECESARILY BUT ANOTHER IS TO SAY THEY ARE AS HUMAN AS WE ARE… FOR EXAMPLE… I’M AGAINST KILLING BABY SEALS IN CANADA, BUT I AM NOT GOING TO STOP EATING MEAT BECAUSE I THINK THE COW IS MY EQUAL…

 TAKE CARE OF YOUR FREEDOM TO EAT, DRESS AND HAVE PETS, RESEND THIS MAIL TO YOUR ACQUAINTANCES AND GET READY IF YOU EVER MEET THESE PEOPLE. SAY NO TO RADICAL VEGANS!

 God bless you.

M. Delgado

ANTISUPERSTITION CRUSADE 


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From: Miguel Delgado

To:

Sent: Tuesday, December 04,

Subject: Declaration of war to vegans

 

WATCH OUT FOR THE RADICAL VEGANS!!!

 This mail is to warn people that our lifestyle is seriously threatened by a group of people named VEGANS, these people want to make illegal the use and consumption of animals in all senses and they will use any means to achieve it including the illegal ones, I’ll write the links that prove it:

1. These groups of people want the following:

1.1 .- No animals for food

1.2 .- No animal leather and fur wear

1.3 .- No animals for entertainment as in zoos or circuses

1.4 .- No animals as pets

1.5 .- No animal testing

1.6 .- No hunting

1.7 .- No fishing

2. These groups called vegan groups don’t eat meat or anything coming from animals like milk, honey, eggs, etc.; they are also called raw vegans (they only eat raw vegetables) and fruit vegans (they only eat fruit) etc.

3. “Attack” methods of these groups:

The first you need to know is that these groups are everywhere: Internet, fashion, newspapers, television, etc. their principal aim is to turn you into veganism… for that purpose they use tactics as follows:

3.1.- They want you to feel guilty as you are evil with the NON HUMAN ANIMALS… (FOR THEM WE ARE HUMAN ANIMALS). They want you to feel like Adolf Hitler and the Holocaust...they’ll show you tender photos of animals with phrases like DON’T EAT US, WE LOVE YOU (A LITTLE DETAIL: animals don’t feel love as humans)

3.2.- They’ll say that eating meat is Poison, it’s full of hormones and bad substances for you… however they forget that many vegans believe in URINE THERAPHY … IT MEANS DRINKING YOUR OWN MORNING URINE TO BE HEALTHY.

3.3.- They use religion to make you believe that Jesus Christ or Saint Francis of Asis were vegans… Those who read the Bible know that it is a lie… i.e.: fishing is miraculous and multiplication of bread and fish.

3.4.- They will use despicable terms as SPECIESIST so that you will be included in the group of racists or Nazis, etc SPECIESCISM IS THE BELIEF THAT HUMANS ARE SUPERIOR TO ANIMALS … AS ANIMALS HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS HUMANS.

 (HERE I’M GOING TO ANSWER AS A RELIGIOUS PERSON … IF I AM A SPECIESIST I AM A SON OF GOD)

 MOREOVER:

…nobody can judge you as food or drink are concerned in festive days (Colosenses 2:16)

Genesis 9

 Pact between God and Noah

 1. God blessed Noah and his sons and told them: “Be fruitful, multiply and fill the earth”.

2. Cause fear and dread to every animal on earth, every bird in the sea, everything that moves on earth and every fish in the sea; for I hand them over to you. 

3. Everything that moves and lives will serve you as food, vegetables and green plants too. I have given everything to you.

 4.- Illegal methods of vegans:

These people have formed eco terrorist groups to achieve animal liberation, they attack and destroy not only farms and ranches but also investigation laboratories as well; they are groups as:

 Earth liberation front

Animal liberation front

http://www.animalliberationfront.com

Vegan revolution:

http://www.geocities.com/revoluion_vegana/

 PROOFS: (I WRITE JUST TWO IN ORDER NOT TO ENLARGE THIS MAIL)

1. In the following link:

www.mundovegetariano.com/MVdoc/MVdoc.php3?id_doc=391&seccion=%2Fgeneral

Read what rule 4 states about how to speak to carnivores (I paste it)

 …“Speak to carnivores the way you talk to a savage animal: tenderly, softly and not roughly…”

 2. In the following link, click in animal law and you’ll see the law they want to pass:

      http://geocities.com/baseanimal/


ANIMAL PROTECTION LAW

 In such a way, the authorities must grant Animal Rights, and they have to act against those who infringe them. Such rights, which have to be similar to the ones that protect mentally deficient human beings – who are especially protected by the Law-, will be ruled as the ones to preserve the human rights.

The following activities will be prohibited as they are severe violations to Animal Rights:

- Consumption of animal products. The law prohibits and punishes severely meat, fish, eggs, dairy products and by-products consumption. Moreover, it punishes more severely the transport, storage, purchase and sale of such products. Additionally, it prohibits wearing, transporting, purchasing and selling leather or fur.

- Animal farming for any purpose unless if it is done to benefit animals. The non humans belonging to people, pet shops, farms and fish farms will be under the State protection which will prevent them from reproducing and will sterilize all the possible ones.

- Experimentation with animals. Any type of vivisection of animals is prohibited. The most severe punishment ruled in the Penal Code will be imposed.

- Fishing and Hunting. The law prohibits any type of fishing and hunting whether it is for commerce or sport. Those who perform those activities will be punished as the ones who farm, transport or sell animals.

- Abortion and Euthanasia. Abortion is both prohibited for humans and animals. It will only be permitted only if the medical authorities determine that the unborn has no possibility of living if the pregnancy continues. Euthanasia will neither be applied to humans nor to animals, which will equally receive health treatments and relief for their pains.

- The political parties that defend or promote animal slavery will be illegal.

 From: Jorge Alberto Saavedra

Date: March, November 20th, 2007 12:44pm

Subject: Interesting article

 An article published in today’s Clarin Digital (which demonstrates the incoherent statements of vegan people) seemed very interesting and convenient to us.

 Paul Mc Cartney’s ex wife gives strange advice to mitigate the effects of climate change.

“Heather Mills is restless”

Married and divorced from an ex Beatle, Heather Mills continues surprising us. The ex model is now embarked on a campaign of giving advice that would help to mitigate climate change. In “El País” newspaper, it is commented that she revealed an alternative diet, which according to her, would be beneficial for protecting the planet.  She said dairy products from cows have to be replaced by cat’s, dog’s or …rat’s milk!  According to the Spanish newspaper, “Paul Mc Cartney’s ex wife made these proposals in the Speaker’s Corner, in London’s Hyde Park where she arrived driving a contaminating Mercedes “.  Mills statements are based on United Nations reports. Last year, UN confirmed that farm animals which are bred for meat or dairy products (as cows) damage the environment. “I turned to vegetarianism due to medical reasons, then I learnt about the abuse of farm animals and I turned to veganism (she doesn’t consume any animal product)”. Her recommendations finished with unusual requests: “Why don’t we drink milk from rats, cats or dogs? The quickest and most effective way of stopping our negative contribution to climate change is to modify our diet and become vegans. It’s so simple.” Thank you Heather, keep trying.

 Kind regards,

Liliana and Jorge Saavedra

 


From: Miguel Delgado

To:

Sent: Sunday, December 02,

Subject: At last!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congratulations for the website… it was high time someone had talked against these 21 century hippies. I am sending weapons for the fight:

http://consumerfreedom.com/

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

It’s incredible, we used to live peacefully …when did we became villains?? My own website will be soon on line. It will help us … www.especista.com.mx

Regards,

M Delgado 


From: Fernando A

To:

Sent: Monday, November 26,

Subject: Good website

 

Very good website and very cool as these “vegans” are thieves, they just want to collect money from people who have no objectives in their lives.

 The people they recruit are those who are against everything and everyone. They don’t want anybody; they don’t know what a family is, what a friend is, and even what a son means. Most of them have never been out of their apartment, the only “green place” they know is the square next to where they live. It’s a shame they want to tell farmers what we have to do.

 The ones who direct them are cool, astute and speak rhetorically but the people who follow them are brute, ignorant and believe in anything, and above all they believe what THEY need to believe.

 I am sending a note that Clarín newspaper publish and I ask to myself:

 DID ANYONE KNOW IF ANY VEGAN OR ANIMAL RIGHTS DEFENDER OPPOSED TO EXTERMINATE RODENTS OR COCKROACHES IN THEIR APPARTMENTS? 

What happens to the little cockroaches, lice and the poor rats? Don’t vegans or animal rights defenders defend them? Do they consider themselves as God so they can decide which animal can be saved and which animal cannot? Which animal can live and which cannot?

 They defend all animals or else they defend no animal at all. The stupid philosophy of these barbarian people is that the only harmful animal on earth is man who kills whatever he touches.

 But the real fact is … that in order to collect donations (which are enormous sums of money, especially the ones that come from petrochemical and the synthetics firms) they need the public support.

If the public doesn’t follow them, there is no money to finance them. That is the reason their advertisements place Bambi’s mother dead body and Baby Bambi crying desperately near her. Additionally, the reason they attacked and attack fur trade is because fur coats are intended for wealthy people (a minority), who have always caused and will cause envy and will always be discredited by the rest of the population.

 Lately, extermination of rodents in the Riachuelo has been commented upon, and … did any of these fanatics protest? Did anyone hear any manifestation about freedom and life of the little rats of the Riachuelo?

 Do you know what these madmen have answered in similar situations? That they defend warm blood animals, but not the rest! And …………? Isn’t it mad to play to be God?

 ARRIBA

 
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